American Idol Past, Present and Future

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I find that the US market likes music which does not appeal to me very much. I am not into the trilling, belting and melisma which seems to be preferred there. Could you imagine Earl or Mookie on that show? LOL. Yet, they were the spice for our show, last year.

Hi, lahlah. I know what you mean. Cheesy

Mookie or Earl on AI...not likely. Not sure why, since they're good and if they showed up to audition it would be hard to refuse them. But in the US I'm not sure they'd show up. Since the show represents a certain type of singing.

Then again, we haven't seen all the auditions yet, so who knows? Maybe another David Cook will emerge--or a Jason Castro.

I know what you're saying because the melisma and trilling has never appealed much to me, and that's one reason I've never really watched AI much. But I don't really think AI represents the type of music the US market likes. Just a few types. (I suppose they have to narrow it down somewhat, since the US market is really so varied?) Here in the US, AI is popular, but it's not really thought of as representing the most popular music or singing styles, and I don't think it does. In a way I think it represents the judges' tastes; if they had Zack and Sass, perhaps more rock would be represented? Or it represents what's "safe" for network TV, and for the demographic that watches it. I don't know. I read something interesting about that the other day: the show is now mainly watched by people over 40.

There are a few articles online about the various changes happening to AI.

This one is an interview with Fox's "president of alternative entertainment," Mike Darnell.

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/01/return_of_idol_a_win_for_darne.php

It's pretty long, but says in part:

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TVWeek: Can we expect surprises as the season goes along?

Mr. Darnell: Yeah. There’s a big surprise coming when we get to the top 12, but I can’t reveal it right now.

TVWeek: Will it change the way we think of “American Idol?”

Mr. Darnell: Well, it’s not going to change what you think of “American Idol” and we don’t want to do that. This show is, you know, a phenomenon. It’s American, it’s apple pie. We’re not changing the core of the show, but it is something that will be talked about and is something I think that has some element of controversy surrounding it.

TVWeek: Do the contestants know?

Mr. Darnell: No. No one knows.

TVWeek: Is that part of it? You want to keep the contestants guessing?

Mr. Darnell: Part of it. But I also think it’s more that it’s a long season and you want to keep as many surprises for the audience, for the press, for everybody, as you go along. Some controversies will pop out. But this is something that we sort of felt like, here’s one set of things we’re doing, we’re going to wait and give you the other set when we get to the final 12.

In another article (here: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-idoltracker13-2009jan13,0,1241919.story),
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We're going back to sort of a raw feel," he said. In the middle rounds, after singing and being judged, the contestants will immediately be confronted by host Ryan Seacrest rather than being allowed to retreat backstage, as in the past.

So you see if they're upset with what Simon said, you get to see it right away instead of them going backstage," explained Darnell. "It's really the rawness of what's happening. How do they feel right after? How do they feel stepping off that stage? They can't hide it. They can't cover it up.

It seems like they watch Canadian Idol pretty closely, eh?

So could the change in the top 12 be: no gender split? What do you think? I don't know.
*scrathches head*

I know that they're going to have a Top 36 this year rather than Top 22. That's about all I heard.

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January 21, 2009, 02:34:44 AM

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Thanx for popping in, Josh, and adding your thoughts.

I can remember quite a few times on CI, when they literally followed the kids down the hall while they were crying or in shock... Or ANGRY. You might be on to something.

Also, they have that big 'Winners Poster' backdrop in the audition room this year, and are using rooms with windows so you can see the cities outside... I have seen all of these on CI!!
Cheesy

I certainly HOPE they are banishing the equal-gender split... Perhaps they will have a Wild Card??

Did anyone happen to hear the song they used over the final credits?
*sigh*
Sad

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Did anyone happen to hear the song they used over the final credits?
*sigh*
Sad

To be honest I'm confused why they used that song... unless it was that guy's favourite song or something, it seems seriously out of context to use it in a "yay I won a gold ticket to American Idol" sense.

Aaaat any rate, I'm still not thrilled by the season. So many over the top singers. The only one I have any desire to see more from so far was that Adam guy. Don't remember his last name. Even he was (like the judges said) kinda theatrical, but at least that can be worked on. Some of these other people are just totally pushing it, or trying to sound like the original belters/artists and it just doesn't come off as real or something I'd want to listen to.

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January 21, 2009, 11:03:47 PM

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So. Maybe the words: "I Can Only Imagine" are wot the show is going for??

Which means NOTHING compared to wot Kalan gave those very words...
*beams*
*HEART*
Cheesy

NOTHING!!

Kalan ROX!! There is no Comparison!!

Is it 'Just ME', or does the AI show this year seem to be USING a LOT of our STUFF??
Grin

At any rate: YEAH. Adam. Musical Theatre, exactly like David Cook... That guy seriously uses his Skills to portray emotion. Just a little bit like Our Guy...

I guess I am falling Prey to the EDITORS, this year, but I really like the guy who [partially, 'cause he has a Brother!!] who is looking after his MOM, too!! That KIA guy...
...Awwww!!
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January 22, 2009, 12:59:06 AM

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Tonight's show was a little better... some people who showed some actual natural talent versus all the put on stuff! Maybe there's some hope yet.

boo.

January 22, 2009, 04:32:50 PM

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This show is so highly 'edited'... wot with the button-pushing music [and suggestive lyrics, depending on the situation]. Plus, I am sure they mess with the Time Line, and show us stuff out of sequence... With only wee glimpses of some of the Best Ones!

I have also heard a theory that they decide the kind of singer they want to win, and 'cast' the show with potential winners [even choosing the ONE they want to win], as well as possible runners-ups, and 'cannon fodder' [fillers who they use while the ones they want can establish themselves], ...and even 'Clowns', for entertainment value. [It backfired on them last year, Big Time! ... Everyone LOVED Jason Castro... They COULD NOT get rid of him!! *beamz* I LURVED me some Jason!! Cheesy

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It is all kinda interesting in a horrifying Train Wreck way!!

WAAAAAaaaaaa.... My Beloved Canadian Idol!
Undecided

WAAAAAAaaaaa
Cry

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January 22, 2009, 08:30:03 PM

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I didn't watch this weeks shows, but I just came across this article:

http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/RealityTV/Articles/090122_Idol8_Auditions4_MH

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Horse pucky in Kentucky

By Melissa Hank

2009-01-14

‘Idol’ auditions aren’t much better in Louisville

Yaaaaaawn. Hmm? Oh, American Idol last night. It was in Louisville, KY, and it stank. It stank almost as much as the horses at Churchill Downs must do after an unsettling breakfast.

No wonder Idol was down about 10 per cent last week from its 2008 season première. Could this be the end for the ratings monolith? Judging from Louisville, looks like it.

In the opening shot, there was little Ryan Seacrest on the horse track, looking for all the world like a very tanned and excited jockey. Then, a brief dispute over the pronunciation of the city’s name – is it Lou-iss-ville, L-oui-ville or Luuuuurville? I’m partial to the latter, just ‘cause saying it makes me feel like Ludacris.

Among those who assaulted my ears were Tiffany Shedd (a bitter Betty if I ever saw one), Irene Anguelela (who looked suspiciously over the age limit) and some girl who sounded like Minnie Mouse with vibrato run amok.

And then there were the just plain strange contestants: Mark Mudd, who threatened the judges with “be careful” on his way out; “Cara Mia” singer Ross Plavsik, who arranges Chinese characters for fun; and foot-stomping, hyper-enthusiastic Aaron Williamson, who pleaded with judges to let him be America’s Next Top Model. Laughing. Out. Loud.

There were some promising candidates, though, whom the judges let through. Joanna Pacitti previously had a record contract, and Brent Keith Smith reminded me of stubbly, skeevy Spencer Pratt, though I’m sure he’s a perfectly nice boy. Duelling piano player Matt Giraud worked a Justin Timberlake vibe, while stay-at-home mom Alexis Grace sang “Dr. Feelgood” with gusto.

The girl who stole my sympathy, though, was Lenesha Young, a poverty-stricken 18-year-old who lived in shelters growing up. She did something revolutionary for karaoke-loving Idol: she sang an original (and more-than-decent) song.

All in all, a mere 19 people out of 11,000 auditioners made it through to Hollywood. Next stop, Jacksonville, Fla. Here’s hoping my ears can make it through the night.

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January 23, 2009, 02:46:14 PM

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At this point the Adam Lambert lurve escapes me, but I should never say never.

Some video I found on him...the first one is very "Vegas." (Is this your next American Idol? What will the grandmas think? Ha.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXvSA6QL7Ac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w5fI5VAo7U

January 23, 2009, 03:48:49 PM

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LOLOLOL

Ohhhhhh man...

...I don't even know what to say right now...

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January 23, 2009, 10:47:32 PM

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No wonder Idol was down about 10 per cent last week from its 2008 season première. Could this be the end for the ratings monolith? Judging from Louisville, looks like it.

Barack Obama was inaugurated on Tuesday, of course, and I read that Fox was the only broadcast network here in the US not carrying inaugural events on Tuesday night. I myself wasn't really watching the inaugural balls but I wasn't in the mood to watch AI, either, for some reason. (San Francisco auditions.) After the history-making events of the day, AI seemed superfluous and uninteresting...I couldn't get into it. And that feeling carried over into Wednesday, as well. I'm sure many people here were watching news shows or news networks rather than AI on Fox. It was a very exciting time, and AI didn't fit into it at all, so I'm not surprised the ratings weren't great.

January 23, 2009, 11:13:16 PM

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Quote from: josh on January 23, 2009, 02:46:14 PM

At this point the Adam Lambert lurve escapes me, but I should never say never.

Some video I found on him...the first one is very "Vegas." (Is this your next American Idol? What will the grandmas think? Ha.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXvSA6QL7Ac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w5fI5VAo7U

EEEK!! Simon is going to have a hay day with this one. He's so outrageous but obviously talented and I think, if he gets through, he may just spice things up a bit. Thanks Josh

Crunkette, great siggy. Is that grumpy face from an Ottawa pic?

January 24, 2009, 02:16:13 AM

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Crunkette, great siggy. Is that grumpy face from an Ottawa pic?

Yup!

(one of NightAngel's I believe)

boo.

January 24, 2009, 03:53:45 PM

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For the Jason Castro fans here.

Jason Castro's performance of Hallelujah, Jan. 23rd at the premier of the film Amar-A- Morir in Santa Barbara, California.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnPOZl39iUA

This article explains how he was chosen to sing this song.
http://www.independent.com/blogs/film-fest-2009/2009/jan/24/Jason-Castro/

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January 24, 2009, 05:40:10 PM

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I know some people here like David Cook. Here are his tour dates. There is one close for the Ontario fans to see him.

http://www.davidcookofficial.com/content/tour-dates-1

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Friday, February 13th - Tallahasee, Fl - Florida State University
Saturday, February 14th - Biloxi, MS - Beau Rivage
Sunday, February 15th - Oxford, MS - Ole Miss
Wednesday, February 18th - Eau Claire, WI - University of Wisconsin
Thursday February 19th - Cedar Falls, IA - University of Northern Iowa
Friday, February 20th - Green Bay, WI - University of Wisconsin - Green Bay
Saturday, February 21st - Valparaiso, IN - Valparaiso University
Monday, February 23rd - Waverly, IA – Warlburg
Tuesday, February 24th - Fullton, MO – Westminster
Wednesday, February 25th - Conway, AR - Central Arkansas University
Friday, February 27th- Portsmouth, OH - Shawnee State University
Sunday, March 1st - Newburgh, NY - Mount St. Mary
Tuesday, March 3rd - Carlisie, PA – Dickenson
Friday, March 6th - Morgantown, WV - W Virginia University
Sunday, March 8th - Willimantic, CT - Eastern Connecticut State University
Tuesday, March 10th - Poughkeepsie, NY - Marist College
Friday, March 13th - Niagara Falls, NY - Seneca Niagara Casino
Saturday, March 14th - Elkins, WV - Davis and Elkins
Monday, March 16th - Bloomington, PA - Bloomington University
Thursday, March 19th - Mansfield, PA - Mansfield University
Friday, March 20th - Atlantic City, NJ - Borgata
Saturday, March 21st - Atlantic City, NJ – Borgata
Monday, March 23rd - Akron, OH – Musica
Tuesday, March 24th- York, PA - Penn State York
Thursday, March 26th - Blues Creek, NC - Campbell, University
Friday, March 27th - Pemberton, NJ - Burlington Community College
Monday, March 30th - New London, NH - Colby Sawyer College
Tuesday, March 31st - New Haven, CT - So. CT State
Thursday, April 2nd - Wilmington, NC - Azalea Fest at Wilmington University
Friday, April 3rd - Towson, MD - Towson University
Sunday, April 5th - Radford, VA - Radford University
Wednesday, April 8th - Macon, GA - Mercer University
Tuesday, April 14th - Malcomb, IL - Western Illinois University
Saturday, April 18th - South Bend, IN - Notre Dame
Tuesday, April 21st - Searcy, AR - Harding University
Wednesday, April 22nd - Kansas City, MO - Ameristar Casino
Saturday, April 25th - Tulsa, OK - University of Tulsa

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January 24, 2009, 08:52:49 PM

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